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Tue Jan 3 13:59:24 2006

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Join us this afternoon in the AUDITORIUM-Scheduled Events Room for an "Open Forum" with Web Editor Mel Boring. Mel has published some 25 magazine articles and stories, as well as eight books for the young readers market. He taught writing for 18 years, while being home husband and parent to two of his four children, and doing his own writing. He welcomes your questions on time management, getting started, writer's block, marketing, writing rights, writing earnings, or anything else you'd like to discuss. Bring your QUESTIONS to this open forum-in five minutes.

 

The Tuesday afternoon "Open Forum" will begin promptly at 4 Atlantic/CANADA, 3 p.m. Eastern, 2 p.m. Central, 1 p.m. Mountain, and noon Pacific. While you wait for the "Open Forum" to start, feel free to use your ASK A QUESTION button RIGHT BETWEEN THE YELLOW "MAP" AND THE RED QUESTION MARK IN ICHAT to post some questions for the discussion group-two minutes from now.

Good afternoon! Welcome to this Tuesday afternoon's "Open Forum" session. I'm your moderator, Mel Boring, and the Web Editor for this site. We're back for an informal time of answering any questions you might like to ask, on any subject. So feel free to ask what's on your mind--and I'll tell you what's on mine! First, please read these announcements, then we'll get started…

 

WARNING: If you don't post anything at all, SOME of you will be bounced off the system in 15 minutes. TO PREVENT THIS, type something (either a question to the moderator or even a private message) every 15 minutes to stay active and remain online.

 

I am VERY SORRY that because of a technical glitch and my clumsy fumblING, some of this afternoon’s Open Forum transcript was lost.  I did recover as much as I could, and I’present that here, with my deepest apologies!  IF YOU ASKED A QUESTION FOR THE FORUM, AND THE ANSWER DOESN’T APPEAR HERE, PLEASE SEND ME YOUR QUESTION AGAIN FOR NEXT WEEK TO: webeditor@institutechildrenslit.com.

 

…Here's a reply I’ve lagged on!

 

Thank you, Mel I thought that was right but just making sure

 

You are WARMLY WELCOME, eggamy!

 

Here’s an after-Christmas writer’s gift idea that is a GOOD one:

 

Just a note to let you know that I did receive one writingly perfect Christmas gift in the form of WRITING CHILDREN’S BOOKS FOR DUMMIES by Lisa Rojany Buccieri and Peter Economy.  I haven't had much time to read yet, but am looking forward to carving out comfy time, cozily wrapped in my brand new fuzzy blanket, in the near future.

 

Have a COZY READ, omalizzie!  Here’s ANOTHER nifty gift idea:

 

 My Dad just brought me the book WRITING FOR DOLLARS: 75 TIPS FOR THE FREELANCE WRITER, by: John McCollister at Barnes & Nobles Books.

 

I haven’t read that particular book, TS, but it sounds like it could help make your writing PROFITable!

 

I found 4 of 5 hardback books written by Madonna at the Dollar Tree store for $1.00 each.

1. Las Rosas Inglesas (Scholastic) $19.95

2.Yakov and the Seven Thieves (Callaway)

3. The Adventures of Abdi (Callaway)

4. Mr. Peabody's Apples (Callaway)

Anyway, if stores send unsold books to the dollar store, does the author still make the royalties (assuming the author is eligible for royalties if not paid a flat fee upfront)? Does the publisher and/or the author lose money when they send unsold books to the dollar store. What happens?  I paid $1.00 each for the 4 books only to see what the books were like. (Maybe as a what NOT to do).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You got a great “bargain,” TS. (-:}  Here is my GUESS, since no one who wasn’t in on the contracting between Madonna and her publishers could know for sure.  She PROBABLY got a VERY sizeable advance, I’m guessing somewhere between ten thousand and a hundred thousand dollars.  If hers was a standard publishing contract, the books would have to sell enough copies to “earn back” her advance before she would start receiving royalties.  In the case of a celebrity, a publisher would probably print MANY thousand copies (say, 100,000 instead of the standard 5,000 or so they would print up for mortal writers like us.  I’m GUESSING, again, that not enough people bought as many of the copies of Madonna’s books as the publishers counted on selling.  So what to do with those that remain.  Because warehousing taxes went way up about 20 years ago, publishers can’t afford to just store them away.  So they do what’s called “remaindering,” selling them to discount publishing houses and such other businesses, and also to smaller business like your Dollar Tree store.  I’m guessing that your Dollar Tree might’ve paid about fifty cents per copy, so the dollar-a-copy you paid showed a profit for them.  Actually, I wish I had found the bargain you did, because I WOULD like to have a complete set of Madonna’s books for my collection of children’s books, TS.

 

Do you outline everything you write?

 

I don’t outline everything, because, for instance, the outline of a picture book could be about as long as the book!  The genre of picture book is seldom longer than 500 words today, and NEVER more than 1000. So just WRITING it would be my own first step."

 

How would you outline an  alphabet book that rhymes?  

 

The book manuscript ITSELF would probably be the “outline,” APP.  Because an outline can be as long as the book itself in the case of books like alphabet books.  I WOULD jot down some IDEAS, though not a thorough outline in the case of a rhyming alphabet book.

 

How can a new writer get published before finishing their childrens writing course?

 

Study the CHILDREN'S MAGAZINE MARKET book, APP, and MATCH your story or article with markets in that book. Then SEND it out.  You MIGHT want to ask your instructor for some guidance and direction. But there is NO reason why you can't begin submitting before you complete the course."

 

I want to write a children's book (either for ages 6-9 or 8-12) with an adult as the main character. I've read picture books with the main character being an adult, but is this typically done, and do editors go for it? I have several good ideas that I want to experiment with, particularly humorous ones.

 

It is TRICKY to do it, EB, but it HAS been done.  The TRICK is to NOT let the adult DOMINATE, and only use them as a necessity. For example, if you were to write a story about seeing a "PG" rated movie, where an adult HAS to go along, that is a NECESSARY adult, so you could pull it off. But MOST editors are wary of dominating adults, and you would need to show them that the main character adult in your book does NOT dominate the children.

 

I have a story well formed and eager to jump out of my mind to the paper/computer. The story is all about FOCUS.  I got the idea from teaching my five-year-old daughter how to focus.  She is very smart, but weak in focusing.  Which age group, do you think the subject would be suitable for writing?"

 

I think that OFTEN the age of child we get our ideas from is the BEST guide as to age range, Charweb.  I would write the focus story for the age 4 to 6 homogenous grouping, in which the 5-year-olds are kind of mid-range."

 

What if an ICL student comes to the last lesson (10) and is not yet ready with a manuscript for submission?  Will the course continue till that stage, or once he/she gets the last assignment back from the instructor, is it the student's responsibility to take up from there?

 

GOOD, another ICL course question! The course really ends at the last assignment, Charweb, so you WILL be on your own, and need to take responsibility after that last assignment.  As an instructor, I always LOVED hearing from students when they sold a story or article or book.  But the course teaching is over with the graduation assignment, my friend.

 

I am looking at the book FEAR OF WRITING by Milli Thorton on E-bay.  I am wondering do you know anything about this book?  Would it be a good purchase?

 

I don't know the book, crouse7, but I will check it out and use your question in next Monday's Open Forum Announcement, okay?

 

Can anyone tell me, where can we buy stationery like binders, papers in wholesale?

GOOD question, charweb! I would check on the Internet, using the search words "paper supplies.  Does ANYone here know of a place?  Let me know and I'll tell everyone!

 

Again on this remainders royalty question, for us mere mortals, would we get royalties on any remainders if we had earned out our undoubtedly meager advances?

 

Maybe or maybe not, spotslover2. If you were J.K. Rowling, you WOULD know about it before it happened, have the chance to buy the books, OR just be given them. We mere mortals SOMEtimes are not told of the remaindering. Here's an example: I wrote CLOWNS: THE FUN MAKERS, published in 1981 by Julian Messner. I had lunch in New York with my editor sometime in 1983, when the book seemed to be doing well. She TOLD me it was doing fine. Then two weeks later, I tried to order some of the clowns books for my own, and I was told it was OOPS--Out of Print--SORRY! I think that doesn't happen so often now, because there are so MANY second-hand book dealers who have come in to take the remainders and re-sell them.  It USED to be I could not even STEAL a copy of my older, OOPS books. But now I can find them all the time on Amazon.com, or AbeBooks, or such."

 

Can anyone use their spouse's name as a pen name?

 

Yes, you CAN use ANY name you want as a pen name, charweb.  On a manuscript, your REAL given name should go up in the heading on the manuscript pages.  Your pen name, or pseudonym, or nom de plume, should be put in the “by…” line.  For example, if I wanted to use the pen name “M. Hardly Boring,” I would put “Mel Boring” into the manuscript page heading with my address, and then under the TITLE of the manuscript on the first page, I’d put “By M. Hardly Boring.”  ANYone can use ANY pen name—except for swearwords, of course. (-:}  Just be sure to go to your bank and also register your pen name with them so that if a check comes to you made out to your pen name, the bank will cash it!

 

If I want to write a children's book (long time goal), and I want to use my first, maiden, and married name, should I use that name in the beginning of my writing journey or can you swap later. It seems being consistent would be better. What are your thoughts? I am also in the beginning stages on starting a web page for photographs and would like to know if I should use my first, maiden, and married names NOW when offering photos for sale?

 

Yes, the consistency is KEY, TS!  You want people, readers, editors to recognize you in your writing, on your Web Page, and through the photographs you plan to sell.  The only time you might use a DIFFERENT name would be if you wrote children’s books under one name, but wanted also to write steamy adult romances—in which case you’d use a different name for the romances, so that the parents of children who read your books for children would not get alarmed that the same author also wrote adult romances.

 

Mel if a Canadian writer sells to an American publisher do we have to pay U.S. taxes on our books?

 

I don't THINK so, gladys1, if I understand what you mean by taxes. You wouldn't have to pay sales tax, for instance. But you would probably pay INCOME tax for the earnings on your books in Canada, if they have an income tax.

 

Mel, sorry, that question wasn't for you.

 

WHOOPS, OK, THANKS, gladys1! (-:}

 

charweb thought of something: if you live in California and southpaw lives in N.Y. how can you get her e-mail or have I got the wrong southpaw?

 

We don’t pass on e-mail addresses here, because of privacy, but people can contact you through ICL’s Writer’s Retreat discussions boards found at: http://forums.institutechildrenslit.com:6080/mb/index.html.

 

This such a funny forum today, M. Hardly Boring!!!

 

THANK YOU, caq!  Actually, I was once a radio deejay, and they had a contest to name me, and the winner suggested the M. Hardly Boring."

 

As far as word processors go, I really think it depends on what you are comfortable with.  It depends on what kind of interface you are comfortable using. It would be great if Word had a streamlined version for writers that doesn't have all the stuff business people use. I suggest trying them out. Maybe some friends have different programs you can try, or maybe find a sample copy you can use. With the price of the software even taking a course at an office store to see if you like it before you buy it may be worth it. I for one love Word, but I have been using it a long time.

 

GOOD ideas, caq!  What I used for years was JUST the word-processing part of Word97.  It was an oldie, but a goodie, and only had the ESSENTIALS.  But I don't think you can buy a "bare-essentials" edition of Word2003 now.  What you might do is look on Ebay for an older edition of Word97, with just the essentials we writers need.

 

What should we do about submissions to Carus (Cricket Group) magazines, given that they're moving?  Their Web Site doesn't mention the move, and still gives the Peru, IL address for submitting to SPIDER and to CRICKET.  And to whom should we address our manuscripts?  Or would it be better to just wait until the dust settles?"

 

No, GO RIGHT ON submitting to them, kswcolorado!  In fact, it's a GOOD time, because some writers might hesitate and SOME won't submit because a favorite editor of theirs is gone.  SO you may find they NEED more submissions right now in their transition--so DO SUBMIT, friend!"

 

Do you know where I can find information about women writing groups in my neighborhood of San Mateo, California?  My ICL writing instructor suggested that I join one and I did but I'd like to experience other writing groups to see if there is a better fit."

 

YES, go to http://www.scbwi.org and click on REGIONAL CHAPTERS. When you get to where that takes you, click on CHAPTERS AND ADVISORS.  You will be able to contact an RA in, I think YOURS would be in the SAN FRANCISCO SOUTH link.  By the way, you are WISE, AC, to experience other writing groups.

 

In word processing, what's the difference between WORKS and WORD?

 

 

Not MUCH, really, spotslover2.  But WORD has been MOST used by office workers, secretaries and the like, and WORKS has been used more by writers like us.  YOU can try free samples of each, spotslover, as caq suggested, and see WHICH you like best.

 

I must go, folks.  This hour has NEVER gone faster than today.  I miss you all in between Open Forums, and I'll WELCOME you back next Tuesday!

 

This THURSDAY evening, Judy Bradbury will be our Chat Guest. What EVERYone always says about her is that they got so MANY suggestions for children's books to read they couldn't write them down in the chat. But don't worry, they'll be in the transcript.

 

HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL of you, MY FRIENDS!

 

Bye Mel!

 

THANKS for coming today!

 

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