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Writer's Support Room - Open Forum Transcripts

Event start time: Tue Nov 22 14:02:25 2005
Event end time: Tue Nov 22 15:17:26 2005


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mel boring Good afternoon! Welcome to this Tuesday afternoon's "Open Forum" session. I'm your moderator, Mel Boring, and the Web Editor for this site. We're back for an informal time of answering any questions you might like to ask, on any subject. So feel free to ask what's on your mind--and I'll tell you what's on mine! First, please read these announcements, then we'll get started….
mel boring IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS: Send questions you'd like answered or discussed by using your "Ask a Question" icon/button. (It looks like a thought bubble icon, RIGHT NEXT TO THE RED QUESTION MARK.) The moderator (me, Mel Boring) will post the questions one at a time in the chat room and do my best to answer them. Also note: If you want to make it possible to ask the longest question you can, first type "/ask" (without the quotation marks), then leave one space after the end of "ask", then type as many characters of your question as you can. If your question is not complete, send the second part next, then if necessary the third, etc…
mel boring WARNING: If you don't post anything at all, SOME of you will be bounced off the system in 15 minutes. TO PREVENT THIS, type something (either a question to the moderator or even a private message) every 15 minutes to stay active and remain online....
mel boring GOOD noon or afternoon, and we have much GOOD NEWS, to start with:...
mel boring Barbara Walsh sent us her GOOD NEWS: I took ICL's first course and one of my lessons was accepted by HIGHLIGHTS FOR CHILDREN. It appears in the December 2005 magazine, and is titled "Red-Crab Invasion." Happy Thanksgiving!
mel boring CONGRATULATIONS, Barbara!!! To have one of your ICL lessons already published in HIGHLIGHTS is a HIGH ACCOMPLISHMENT for you--way to WRITE RIGHT!
mel boring Sara Lewis Holmes send us this GOOD NEWS when reading about Ursula Nordstrom in the recent Children's Writer's E-News: I was the first winner of the Ursula Nordstrom fiction contest (June 2004) and my book, LETTERS FROM RAPUNZEL, will be out from HarperCollins in January 2007. One of the things that made winning so thrilling was that I had recently read DEAR GENIUS, the collection of UN's letters edited by Leonard Marcus. And even better, I had lent the book to my mom, so when I called to tell her which contest I had won, she knew just how great it was to be associated with such a legend!
mel boring In last week's newsletter, I wrote about Ursula Nordstrom in "The Write Life."...
mel boring I did that because I have been reading DEAR GENIUS, a book of Ursula Nordstrom's letters....
mel boring I HIGHLY recommend that book, by the way...
mel boring It was SUPER to hear from Sara Lewis Holmes, the FIRST winner of the Ursula Nordstrom Fiction Contest in June 2004....
mel boring HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS to you, Sara Lewis Holmes!!!...
mel boring We will be LOOKING for your LETTERS FROM RAPUNZEL in January 2007! And THANK YOU for letting us know!
mel boring Gladys Senns sent this GOOD NEWS: I am going to be a staff writer for www.christianlink.com, a new online Christian newsletter. I just got the confirmation this morning.
mel boring CONGRATULATIONS to you, Gladys!!!...
mel boring Now you have a CONTINUING job in writing, at a STRONG Web Site! We wish y ou ALL WELL on that new job, Gladys!
mel boring GOOD NEWS from Karen Robuck: An article I've been trying to sell for awhile has been accepted by CLUBHOUSE JR. It is entitled "Animal of the Long Tongue." No word on when it will be published.
mel boring We'll be looking for "Animal of the Long Tongue," a VERY INTRIGUING title, Karen Robuck!...
mel boring Karen has been published on our ICL Web Site, and we are VERY PLEASED for you, Karen, to have sold your article to CLUBHOUSE JR!!!
mel boring Chris Weigand sent this GOOD NEWS: Recently I was called by God to write Bible Studies and my first one was recently posted to an online ezine entitled SISTER 2 SISTER 4 CHRIST. Here is the link if you want to see the study entitled "Reluctant and Impatient Prophets." The link is www.s2s4christ.org. Once there, then click on S2S Bible Studies in the menu on the right, finally click on November's Study.
mel boring Chris Weigand is much published, and an editor of much experience....
mel boring CONGRATULATIONS, Chris, and THANK YOU for sharing with us!
mel boring Fresh GOOD NEWS from clarinetgurl/Alison McFerrin: I had a poem accepted at Runes ezine at www.runesmag.com. I'm really excited. Even though it is nonpaying, it is still my first acceptance, and I'm really happy. I don't know when it will be published.
mel boring CONGRATULATIONS to YOU, clarinetgurl/Alison!!!...
mel boring MANY of us began by giving our writing away, with little or no payment,...
mel boring and this leads to PAID writing. So you are WELL on your way to that by being published at Runes ezine!
mel boring DOUBLE-GOOD NEWS from Teresa Kraus: I mentioned a few months ago that I had sold my first story to HIGHLIGHTS FOR CHILDREN. "Miss Perfect" just came out in the December 2005 issue. I am finally a published author! I also received news that one of my stories was chosen as one of the top ten stories in the POCKETS Fiction Contest. They are holding it for possible publication in a future issue.
mel boring We are SO PROUD of you, Teresa!!!...
mel boring Just today, I read "Miss Perfect" in the current HIGHLIGHTS FOR CHILDREN, and it is a VERY touching story about sibling rivalry....
mel boring THANKS for that story, Teresa!
mel boring I wonder if anyone caught the fact that TWO of our chatsters are published in the December 2005 HIGHLIGHTS FOR CHILDREN! We are VERY PROUD of BOTH of your accomplishments!!!
mel boring The Tasty Word of the Forum, by the way is "persnickety." It's pronunciation is: purr-SNICK-it-tee. Do you know what it means? Let me know!
mel boring There are two matters to follow up on from last week, first, casey's question:...
mel boring casey asked us last week: I read that Alma Little (Elva Resa Publishing) is looking for children's books. Do you know anything about that small publisher?
mel boring Information in response to casey's question (part 1):
and not listed in either ICL's 2005 Magazine Markets for Children's Writers. Basically, Elva Resa publishes books that "make a difference in people's lives," as they put it. Some of their adult books, for example, are about families whose members are deployed by the military, away from home. Their children's book imprint, Alma Little, recently announced a call for manuscripts and is accepting submissions through December 15, 2005.

picture books, young readers, and middle grade novels may be submitted for consideration. Please send a cover letter with a one-paragraph summary of your book, previous publication credits and other author qualifications, and your comments on the market for your proposed title. For picture books and young readers, please send entire manuscript. Do not send illustrations unless you are both the author and a professional illustrator. For middle grade novels, please send your first three chapters and a synopsis; we may ask you to send the entire manuscript if your first chapters capture our attention. All submissions should be double spaced, with your name, email, and phone number at the top of each page. Please send your submissions as either PDF or Word document attachments via email to submissions@almalittle.com no later than December 15, 2005. (to be continued
mel boring Information in response to casey's question (part 2):





Publishing is a small independent publishing company whose mission is to make a positive difference in the lives of people who read the words and pictures we publish. Under our primary imprint, Elva Resa, we publish nonfiction books, newsletters, and workshop materials for families and professionals. We are accepting children's book manuscripts for our children's imprint, Alma Little.

as well as authors directly. We favor relatively unknown authors and illustrators who are very good at what they do. All accepted manuscripts go through an in-depth evaluation, edit, and design review prior to publication. We focus on products that will make a difference in the lives of our readers as we encourage and help our authors and illustrators continue on their worthy journeys.

Resa mean?
"elva" means "eleven" and "resa" means "journey." It has been said that entrepreneurs fail ten times before they succeed. When our founders were searching for a name for this new company, they drew from the heritage of an incredible Swedish woman (Gramma) and decided to begin with the eleventh journey
mel boring THANK YOU for asking about Elva Resa, casey!!! THey were a publisher I did NOT know about before, so you have helped me learn, too....
mel boring I'm sorry I can't give you any more right now, but as I learn more, I will pass it on, friend!
mel boring During this past week I put out a Q&A about "HowardE," asking for information, and I received it today!...
mel boring CM sent us this information about the "Howard E" Web Site we had asked about: "I read your newsletter, and came upon the question about "Howard E." This may not be the case, but there is a "Howard Ely" who is the managing editor for poetry.com. For goodness sakes, please divert anyone from submitting to this fraudulent organization. I made the mistake myself. Sure my poem made it into a book, but I had to buy it, and bookstores will not touch it. You can look up poetry.com and find a listing with several of these phony contests. (The link is http://www.poetry.com.)"
mel boring THANK YOU, CM!!! Your info was VERY helpful!!!...
mel boring From Midge, I heard:...
mel boring Howard Ely is part of a Vanity Press for Poetry. I know because I had 2 poems published through this vanity press. I am not sure if Howard Ely really exists. If you go to poetry.com or the International Poets Society, you can submit a poem and for a price have your poem published in a book. Once you pay to have your poem published, you will get an email plus a mailing from Howard Ely to tell you that you have been chosen for an award. Again, you have to pay for the award plus you have to pay all expenses to the convention site. There was talk about vanity press, but I don't remember where I saw it, because it has been a couple of years ago. I hope this is of some help to cjlm.
mel boring Thank YOU, too, Midge! Of course we knmow about poetry.com, and their reputation--NOT SAFE at all!...
mel boring So know that "Howard E" or "Howard Ely" are both a part of poetry.com, and don't go near them!
mel boring Here is another caution, about Priority Mail, in this case, from spotslover 2:...
mel boring Here's a warning for fellow chatters on the forum. I always send out a manuscript Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation; that way I can go to the USPS website and track the manuscripts journey to its destination. The Post Office personnel at my branch assured me that the publisher would only have to accept the package-no signing or picking up required. Well, two of the last three manuscripts I sent out were NOT left at the publishers, because no-one was there to accept them. This was on Friday, Nov. 11th. The one to Harcourt was delivered on Monday, but the one to Margaret McElderry has yet to be delivered. (USPS promises me it will be delivered tomorrow.) So, my warning is, put a sticker on the front of your package stating that you want it left in the mail box, even if no-one is there to accept it. Sarah, a.k.a. spotslover2
mel boring THANKS, Sarah!!! Remember, if you want Priority Mail LEFT in the box without a PERSON accepting it, DO write that on a sticker on the front of the package!
mel boring Here is a question from CO, via e-mail: Why do editor's ignore status requests? I know not all do, but recently I sent an email submission to a magazine that responds within one month based on their market guidelines. The month passes no word from the editor on my submission. I kindly ask for a status request and wait a week for a response. No answer. I ask again this time mentioning it was not a simultaneous submission and could I please have a status request to bring my records up to date. How long do you wait before proceeding to the next editor and why can't an editor kindly send you a "no thank you" if they're not interested? I was corresponding through email based on the writer's guidelines.
mel boring The reason is PROBABLY "busyness," CO...
mel boring but that's a very WEAK reason, because we ALL are busy!...
mel boring First of all, if you can get a PHONE number, CO, call and ask the receptionist about your manuscript....
mel boring PROBABLY that person KNOWS or can find out, without going through the editor....
mel boring Editors tend to feel they are TOO BUSY to deal with matters like manuscript check-ons,...
mel boring and if you talk with the receptionist--who probably opens ALL mail, that person may know....
mel boring If you DON'T hear from the publisher in TWO TIMES their stated response time, write them to say you are submitting elsewhere, then do it....
mel boring If they say they have a one-month response time, then TWO months is long enough to have waited for them. Notify them then, and submit it elsewhere, CO.
mel boring Here's a question I don't know the answer to, but some of you probably will:...
mel boring Midge wrote to ask you AND me: Can you help me find the correct name of a girl's magazine from the 1950s? I think it was put out by the Girls Scouts. Could it be GIRL'S LIFE? Can you point me in the right direction? Or give me a hint on where to look? May be someone in the audience remembers or could help.
mel boring If you KNOW what the OLD Girl Scout magazine was called, let me know here so I can tell Midge!
mel boring Here is MORE GOOD NEWS, just in!...
lani mel...good news...I'm to be published in Faces Mag...May'06
mel boring CONGRATULATIONS, lani!!!...
mel boring FACES is in the CRICKET Magazine Family, and a SUPER publication!...
mel boring It is about different cultures of the world,...
mel boring and CONGRATULATIONS and HIGH-TEN, lani!!!...
mel boring We'll be watching for your writing in FACES next May!
kswcolorado Mel, what are the "rules" for avoiding copyright . . .
kswcolorado infringement when retelling folktales?
mel boring kswcolorado, a WARM WELCOME, friend!....
mel boring The rules of copyright are to find out WHEN the folktale was published....
mel boring If it was BEFORE 1922 now, then you're free to use it, even COPY it, because the copyright has run out....
mel boring If it is after that for a publication date, it may STILL be copyrighted....
mel boring The BEST way to proceed is to find the folktale in a published form, book or magazine, and WRITE to the publisher to ask about the tale and it's copyright....
mel boring OR the copyright YEAR might be right on the book or the magazine, kswcolorado.
ccollier What do you do if your editor has a name that could be male
ccollier or female in your cover letter, i.e Terry, Kim, Lynn?
mel boring When that happens to me, if there is ANY doubt, I address them "Dear Terry Jones" or "Dear Kim Thompson" or "Dear Lynn Wilson."...
mel boring Then when they let you know, or you find out they are male or female, you can address them accordingly.
pjhausman A question (or a suggestion?) from the last Thursday ...
pjhausman Guest Chat: If so many trade publishers are no longer ...
pjhausman accepting direct submissions, can ICL's Book Markets ...
pjhausman for Children's Writers include a section (or even a ...
pjhausman separate book) of literary agents?
mel boring That is a BRIGHT idea, pjhausman, and I'm going to ASK about it!...
mel boring I'm THINKing they may already have an idea in the works,...
mel boring realizing how very necessary agents are nowadays....
mel boring And from Sharene Martin's Guest Chat last November 10,...
mel boring you can see WHY agents are ever so necessary!....
mel boring By the way, I have JUST posted the EXTRA questions we sent to Sharene Martin, which she was so KIND to answer....
mel boring They are EXCELLENT questions, and her answers are right on-target!
charweb Hi Mel. Where can get the writers' guidelines for ICL...
charweb and Childrens Writer new letter.
mel boring For the ICL Web Site, charweb, the guidelines are at:...
mel boring http://www.institutechildrenslit.com/rx/wt05/writers_guidelines_12.shtml
mel boring For the CHILDREN'S WRITER newsletter, they are at:...
mel boring OOPS, I'm SORRY I can't find them right now, charweb!...
mel boring But I WILL find out for next Tuesday and tell you here, OK?
mel boring Now, about "persnickety," let's see what you have come up with!...
mewf We can be very persnickety about our mss and that makes for good written materials.
spotslover2 My kids frequently called me persnickety, because I wanted them to pick up their clothes and put their dishes in the dishwasher. Persnickety mean fussy and fastidious.
birdi according to my husband. In the dictionary, under persnickety.....it says Rosanne
charweb persnickety = choosy, fussy, picky, particular
lani mel..persnickety: very picky, particular
mel boring I guess Rosanne must be persnickety, birdi!...
mel boring But the word does mean fussy, fastidious, choosy, picky, particular, very picky!...
mel boring And it would be a word that kids would call us parents, IF they knew the word!...
mel boring And isn't it a TASTY sounding word!!!
mel boring PLEASE remember not to chat with each other by typing on the screen!...
mel boring What that does is interrupt the flow of Q&As....
mel boring If you want to message someone, PLEASE use the Private Message facility, OK?
casey thanks, mel
mel boring You are WARMLY WELCOME, casey!
mel boring Ah, I KNEW all of us is smarter than ANY of us, and kswcolorado has come up with that Girl Scout Magazine of the 1950s!...
kswcolorado Girl Scout magazine from the 50's was . . .
kswcolorado The American Girl, published by Girl Scouts--in my . . .
kswcolorado 1963 Cadette Handbook!
mel boring THE AMERICAN GIRL, THANK YOU, kswcolorado!...
mel boring I wonder if THE AMERICAN GIRL dolls and publications of today took on that name?
mel boring THANKS, kswcolorado, from BOTH Midge and me!
mel boring Some sad news, alas:...
mel boring Rose Zediker kindly let us know this sad news: I received notification with a return manuscript that ON THE LINE, like STORY FRIENDS, is also ceasing publication in August of 2006. A sad day for this magazine writer as I've places pieces in both of those publications and had future hopes.
mel boring SAD news, indeed, for BOTH ON THE LINE and STORY FRIENDS have been great markets through the years!...
mel boring I hope their other mags, like WITH, don't fold!
mel boring Here is an ASOUNDING WRITING FACT!...
mel boring Recently Learned: One writer received an offer to buy an article, from HOPSCOTCH FOR GIRLS, saying they would publish the article, but not until December, 2012. It made me wonder if any of YOU have had a seven-year delay in publishing any of your stories or articles at HOPSCOTCH FOR GIRLS, or any other magazine? Or can you TOP that seven-year wait?
mel boring I told the writer that a long wait was NOT unusual, that I had heard recently of a FIVE-YEAR wait at HIGHLIGHTS,...
mel boring but SEVEN YEARS does seem excessive!...
mel boring When Kent Brown Jr of HIGHLIGHTS was our chat guest last December,...
mel boring he said there had been a piece at HIGHLIGHTS for TEN YEARS that he finally urged them to publish!...
mel boring How long have OTHERS of you waited?
mel boring Let me know, please!
mel boring WWW e-mailed to ask: If you are writing historical fiction, your bibliography's primary books are books that were written at the time of the event, correct? If the author lived through it, but wrote it recently, say the last twenty years, would it be considered a secondary source or primary? And if there is no author listed on the book, how and where would it would it go in the biography?
mel boring The YEARS AFTER don't matter with primary sources, WWW....
mel boring What matters is that the AUTHORS of primary sources (or those interviewed in the source) were THERE at the time of the event....
mel boring If you could FIND someone, say, who is now 145 years old, they COULD be a Primary Source about the Civil War of 1860 to 1865....
mel boring But probably all of those who witnessed it are dead now....
mel boring But if a person who was IN the Civil War wrote about it in, say, 1900, that person would be a primary source.
mel boring WWW also needs to know: Could newspaper articles from that time period be used in the bibliography?
mel boring YES, and they would be primary sources, WWW.
mel boring WWW needs to know, too: How many references should you have for a historical fiction's bibliography? I have 28 books, a handful of articles, and three television documentaries, is this near enough to do the book justice?
mel boring YES 28 books plus all else that you have are sufficient, WWW!...
mel boring I have seen as many as 150 references in a BOOK bibliography, but as few as 10 or 12, WWW, so you are WELL within the ball park for biblio references!
mel boring Oh, here is an announcement from John Prophet I forgot to make, which you might be VERY interested in:...
mel boring THANKS to John Prophet for letting us know: The 6th Annual Writer's Digest Short Short Story Competition is accepting entries! We're looking for fiction that's bold, brilliant... but brief. Send us your best in 1,500 words or less. But don't be too long about it — the deadline is December 1, 2005. The link for guidelines and entry form: https://www.writersdigest.com/contests/shortshort/
mel boring THANKS, John!
mel boring JLR needs to find out: What is the format for submitting a picture book?
mel boring BEST is to just type the manuscript on 8.5 by 11-inch regular typing paper, JLR....
mel boring And between each PAGE of the BOOK you can put ***, three asterisks to indicate a page change....
mel boring IF the book cannot be totally understood from JUST this manuscript, JLR,...
mel boring you can send a dummy. That would be a little 32-page mock-up of the book....
mel boring IF you are ALSO the illustrator for the book, you could make this kind of "dummy," and also show your illustrations....
mel boring The kind of a book that MIGHT require a dummy might be, for example, if you wanted to indicate...
mel boring a certain animal without mentioning it in the text. Then the ILLUSTRATION would show the animal; OR you could TELL on the dummy that that animal should appear.
mel boring angelswing e-mailed to ask: If your subject has very little documentation can you rely heavily on interviews?
mel boring You might HAVE to rely on interviews, angelswing,...
mel boring IF the subject was VERY NEW....
mel boring For example, if a teenager invents a bicycle that goes without touching the ground next Tuesday,...
mel boring and you want to write about them, there would be NO books and probably no magazines available about their invention...
mel boring So you would HAVE to interview the teen, or people around the teen, to get the story.'
mel boring angelswing also needs to know: What information would I need to include in my bibliography to document an interview?
mel boring You need the PERSON's name whom you interviewed,...
mel boring plus the DATE of the interview...
mel boring and the TIME, perhaps, if that is a factor....
mel boring Say you interviewed the person for EIGHT HOURS, that would necessitate mentioning the time....
mel boring So if I interviewed, say, J.K. Rowling (Don't I WISH!),...
mel boring I would put in my biblio:...
mel boring "Interview with Joanne Kathleen Rowling, November 29, 2005, by transoceanic phone, 8:00 AM to 3:23 PM, Central Standard Time.
mel boring LG sent us this question: I'm writing about leafy sea dragons. I found a site on the Internet that tells about the tracking of the dragons ultrasonically. I wanted to quote half a sentence from one paragraph and half from another sentence the source (Journal of Fish Biology). I wanted it as a sidebar. They stated via a pre-written copyright form that it would cost me over Is that possible?
mel boring NO NEED to pay a fee for quoting those short takes, LG!...
mel boring Just CREDIT them in your bibliography, the name, the title of a piece, the source, and the date, and pages.
mel boring Just to QUOTE a person, especially a SHORT quote, you will get in NO TROUBLE if you credit them....
mel boring LG likewise sent us this question: I've written aquariums for interviews for my leafy sea dragon article, and asking for the use of a picture of the dragon. How much would that cost me? I am frustrated. Am I going about this copyright thing wrong? This is so confusing for a nonfiction article. I should have all the copyrights done before I submit to the editor, right? I have a bibliography with at least six Internet Web Sites and two books and hopefully two interviews. What is the editor going to think of this--will they even read my article?
mel boring To use a PICTURE, unlike using a QUOTE can cost money, yes, LG!...
mel boring In that case, the source will usually tell you how much the PICTURE will cost to use....
mel boring And for a PICTURE, may not be out of line. But short QUOTES can be done WITHOUT permission and without cost!...
mel boring Here's a tip: DON'T go through the copyright and picture cost process BEFORE you query or send the article to the editor!...
mel boring When you QUERY or SUBMIT to the editor, just tell them what MIGHT be the possiblities of pictures....
mel boring You won't have to have the pictures until the manuscript is bought. And the editor may have ways of getting pictures for her/himself. SO WAIT, until you place the manuscript, LG.
mel boring Charweb e-mailed to ask us: Can I use the names of people in my article just to quote what they said about my topic, an ancient chinese language/script, and for relevant points about my topic?
mel boring YES, you can use the names of people, AND quote what they said or wrote, charweb....
mel boring Charweb also needs to know: I've found the Chinese script for the language, can I photocopy and use it in my article? Do I need permission for that?
mel boring NO, you don't need permission. If you photocopied our alphabet, you would not need permission, charweb, and for ANY language script you don't need permission either. No one OWNS that script, or our alphabet, so they can be freely used.
mel boring And Charweb needs to find out: How do I format sidebars? Do I have to send them as separate pieces of papers or include them in the manuscript?
mel boring List them at the END of your manuscript, charweb,...
mel boring And you can number them there, 1. 2. and 3., and so on. DON'T place them within the manuscrip[t itself. Just put them at the end and label them SIDEBARS...
mel boring One more question about Charweb's Chinese language/script article: For a magazine article, is it a must to include a book? Are any written sources to be included? I have many Internet resources but I couldn't find any book printed on this script? Can you please suggest something to me?
mel boring If there ARE no books, NO, you could not include them, and that may be true for SOME current topics, charweb....
mel boring List ANY written or AUDIO sources in your bibliography. By the way, I don't know of ANY books about Chinese language/script of any kind, sorry!
mel boring WHOOPS! I have to go!...
mel boring THANK YOU for being here today! I have MANY leftover questions, and I will use them in the Q&As on Mondays....
mel boring Remember NO Guest Chat this Thursday--HAPPY THANKSGIVING!...
mel boring The NEXT Guest Chat will be on December 8, a Thursday.
mel boring Oh, one more question I meant to get to:...
eggamy isn't Faces a Cobblestone publication?
mel boring FACES used to be Cobblestone, eggamy, but the Cricket Group bought those magazines some few years ago, so they're in the Cricket Family now....
mel boring Bye for now, see you next Tuesday!

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